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number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the economy, let me say for the 10,000th time, bill clinton raised tax rates on the top 2% in 1993 and we then proceeded to grow the economy by 23 million jobs. so, that's a bunch of bull, speaker boehner. >> let's go back to alex with the same question. i will argue that even though he hasn't specified the deductions or the loopholes he's going to close, the governor is right, there isn't enough at the top to close to make up for this advantage they have now but it seems he's accepting the moral argument. he's saying, the rich should get socked, too. that was an amazing admission for him to say to that. your thoughts. >> i agree with you. the fact that john boehner is out there saying we are asking the rich to pay more in taxes is not something they ever would have done in 2011. if you remember, math by details in the sitdo
number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the economy, let me say for the 10,000th time, bill clinton raised tax rates on the top 2% in 1993 and we then proceeded to grow the economy by 23 million jobs. so, that's a bunch of bull, speaker boehner. >> let's go back to...
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if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton and supported by bill clinton and barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> strong words. while clinton has dozens of options when she leaves the state department, "the new york times" notes she will have to choose her job carefully until she's ready to decide on the presidential race. quote, the more serious she is about 2016, the less she can do, no frank, seen it all memoir, no clients, commissions or controversial positions that could prove problematic. also get rid of those kay men island bank accounts. no car elevators either. clinton will likely sign on to work with her husband at the clinton foundation for a while and could possibly write a book about her time as secretary of state. >>> speaking of political contenders, there could be a bruising and very entertaining battle just around the corner in new jersey. newark mayor cory booker says he will decide in the next two weeks whether he plans or not plans to challenge governor chri
if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton and supported by bill clinton and barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> strong words. while clinton has dozens of options when she leaves the state department, "the new york times" notes she will have to choose her job carefully until she's ready to decide on the presidential race. quote, the more serious she is about 2016, the...
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yesterday the house rejected last-minute pleas to delay the bill's passage. even president obama, who won michigan by ten points last month, was unable to sway state lawmakers at the last minute during his visit to detroit. but governor snyder says it was the union who started this fight in the first place. >> i asked them not to go forward, and the reasons i said it is you're going to start a very divisive discussion regarding collective bargaining first, but it also will get into right to work. the right-to-work discussion continued to escalate and was becoming very divisive. the way i viewed it is it's on the table, it's a hot issue, let's show some leadership. so i said when i reviewed it, it's a good thing. it's about being pro-worker, it's about economic development. we will get more jobs coming to michigan because we're going to be more competitive. >> the governor also argued his state's union battle was completely different from what unfolded in wisconsin and ohio. >> i think it's important to make a distinction with wisconsin and ohio. that was abou
yesterday the house rejected last-minute pleas to delay the bill's passage. even president obama, who won michigan by ten points last month, was unable to sway state lawmakers at the last minute during his visit to detroit. but governor snyder says it was the union who started this fight in the first place. >> i asked them not to go forward, and the reasons i said it is you're going to start a very divisive discussion regarding collective bargaining first, but it also will get into right...
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obama care basically said, let's try them and a fewç conservati ideas like mal practice insurance. i call it a throw it at the wall strategy. other people do, too. basically throw the stuff at the wall. try everything. see what sticks. see what works. and then come back in two or three or five years and say this experiment is saving some money. let's expand it. let's put more money behind it and more incentive and this one isn't working. all right. get rid of it. you know, and even if just a few of these work, there's so much waste in the health care system and even if just a few of work, we'll save an enormous amount of money and go a listening way to saving the fiscal problem. >> jonathan, it seems, though, democrats have made medicare something of a sacred cow and maybe to their own peril. i'll quote david kendall with a post up in "the washington post." he's senior fellow at third way. he basically says, look, medicare will have to be trimmed and many democrats see that as a concession. you need to fix medicare to save it. which should be something that all democrats want to do
obama care basically said, let's try them and a fewç conservati ideas like mal practice insurance. i call it a throw it at the wall strategy. other people do, too. basically throw the stuff at the wall. try everything. see what sticks. see what works. and then come back in two or three or five years and say this experiment is saving some money. let's expand it. let's put more money behind it and more incentive and this one isn't working. all right. get rid of it. you know, and even if just a...
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michigan's republican governor rick snyder says when the bill reaches his desk, he'll sign it and make it into a new law. >>> first rule of the fiscal cliff talks, don't talk about the fiscal cliff talk. both president obama and speaker boehner are sticking to their mary tore yum to not talk about how negotiations are going, which most analysts say is a good sign. according to the walg street journal, people directly involved say they've taken a recent shift in days with the staff and leaders on both sides are getting more serious. not sure why they weren't in the first place. >>> yesterday in michigan the president said he was open to spending cuts but held firm to raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> what you need is a package that keeps tacks where they are for middle-class families, we make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a splietly higher tax rate and that's a sprins pl i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all of
michigan's republican governor rick snyder says when the bill reaches his desk, he'll sign it and make it into a new law. >>> first rule of the fiscal cliff talks, don't talk about the fiscal cliff talk. both president obama and speaker boehner are sticking to their mary tore yum to not talk about how negotiations are going, which most analysts say is a good sign. according to the walg street journal, people directly involved say they've taken a recent shift in days with the staff and...
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a still relatively popular president barack obama. trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> joining me now, democratic strategist danielle gibbs. that's a pretty big admission. newt gingrich saying republicans would be incapable of beating hillary clinton in 2016. do you agree with your old boss, david? >> what he's saying is at this point given the way republicans are running campaigns, given what we just saw with governor romney campaigning and the couple of the senate campaigns, in terms of being able to be an effective political force, in terms of running a campaign against someone who's going to be that highly skilled, republicans have got a lot of work to do. so as a result it's not -- it's just not simply the tactical side. the voter lists and the data bases. it's the strategic side as well. remember, we made the strategic -- or the strategic decision was made by romney there was going to be a referendum. couldn't have been more wrong. >> let's l
a still relatively popular president barack obama. trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> joining me now, democratic strategist danielle gibbs. that's a pretty big admission. newt gingrich saying republicans would be incapable of beating hillary clinton in 2016. do you agree with your old boss, david? >> what he's saying is at this point given the way republicans are running campaigns, given what we...
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it's a proposal that president obama likes. so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to embarrass the democrats. he wanted to prove that the democrats didn't have the votes for the legislation. harry reid called his bluff and objected to putting the bill up for a vote, but after discussing it with his democratic members he got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was priding when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill. >> is there an objection to the original request? >> objection is heard. i got whiplash. >> very strange. >> dick durbin reacted to mcconnell's move moments later. >> so this may be a moment in senate history when a senator made a proposal and when given an opportunity for a vote, filibustered his own proposal. i think we have now reached a new spot in the history of the senate we have never seen before. >> let's turn to bernie sanders. i'm laughing at it too, senator. this just goes to show either winging it big time. they don't have a plan other than to get in the way. what's your response to what unfolded on the floor a
it's a proposal that president obama likes. so why would mitch mcconnell propose such a bill? to embarrass the democrats. he wanted to prove that the democrats didn't have the votes for the legislation. harry reid called his bluff and objected to putting the bill up for a vote, but after discussing it with his democratic members he got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was priding when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill. >> is there an objection to...
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. ♪ ♪ >> there are 25 shopping days for a deal between congressional republicans and president obama before we go flying off the fiscal curb. today, from a kitchen table in northern virginia. >> this is a solvable problem. the senate at already passed a bill that would make sure that middle class taxes do not go up next year. to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate for going up for folks at the top two percent. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done for families like this one. >> that is the home of the santana family. house speaker john boehner could not find a table where he was welcome so he made no comment at the table. >> are are you saying that for pr purposes they should give give in? >> yes, i am. >> you are saying to obama, we don't have a revenue problem, an. we lost the election, sean. >> yes, america, it has come to this. ann is trying to get sean to face reality. let's watch a bit more of the intervention. >> if they are going to raise taxes and buy the argument and co opt his language. >> no, they are not goin
. ♪ ♪ >> there are 25 shopping days for a deal between congressional republicans and president obama before we go flying off the fiscal curb. today, from a kitchen table in northern virginia. >> this is a solvable problem. the senate at already passed a bill that would make sure that middle class taxes do not go up next year. to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate for going up for folks at the top two percent. but i do remain optimistic...
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her president, former president bill clinton, was president obama's key surrogate during this election cycle, setting the stage for president obama to return the favor in 2016. if she so decides to run. remember earlier this week, she was at the save and center for middle east policy and they ran that glossy video that felt like a campaign video in which she was praised by a number of officials, including president benjamin netanyahu. the stage sbing set f that's what she decides. if you go deeper into that poll, 66% of women say she should run, so higher than the national average. that would be one of her core constituencies. those close to me tell me when she steps down she'll focus on resting. >> to be frank, though, i think she's deserved a well-deserved rest. >> reporter: absolutely. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. look th
her president, former president bill clinton, was president obama's key surrogate during this election cycle, setting the stage for president obama to return the favor in 2016. if she so decides to run. remember earlier this week, she was at the save and center for middle east policy and they ran that glossy video that felt like a campaign video in which she was praised by a number of officials, including president benjamin netanyahu. the stage sbing set f that's what she decides. if you go...
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the day after that, bill clinton talked to the press. he's president of the united states, i look at this and say i can't imagine barack obama or any politician doing this. >> the gun that was used contained two 15-round clips. this man in a manic state was walking down the subway aisle and one of the reasons we ought to pass the crime bill is senator feinstein's amendment to limit assault weapons would make the 15-round clips illegal. they are not necessary for hunting or sports. i hope that this will give more to the need to act urgently to deal with the unnecessary problems of gun violence in the country. >> so, he's making an explicit call for legislation in response to a gun tragedy. it's worth pointing out. the only thing that barack obama has done on guns was make it easier to carry them in national parks. that is basically his record on guns for the last four years. david, you look at that, look at clinton and where we are right now. it's been more than a decade since columbine. are you at all optimistic about guns becoming an is
the day after that, bill clinton talked to the press. he's president of the united states, i look at this and say i can't imagine barack obama or any politician doing this. >> the gun that was used contained two 15-round clips. this man in a manic state was walking down the subway aisle and one of the reasons we ought to pass the crime bill is senator feinstein's amendment to limit assault weapons would make the 15-round clips illegal. they are not necessary for hunting or sports. i hope...
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it's a blue state that obama won by points last month. they lost these fights just about everywhere else. democrats in right to work states have moved on. democrats in the state legislature have threatened further action. >> good ideas get debate and bad ones get rammed through with police protection in a legislature. i will say this. this fight is not over. >> it's unclear exactly what democrats and labor can do. critics say it could overturn the law that would require getting 258,000 signatures on the ballot. labor may be looking at 2014 for retribution. >> we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement. make it crystal clear that schneider can't get away with this. >> this is the first round of a battle that will divide the state. we will have a civil war in this state. >> there you heard it. think about it this way. labor is likely to make schneider a big 2014 target. the mid-western republican governors are aiming to take down john casic and scott walker and of course schneider throws in florida's rick scott although flori
it's a blue state that obama won by points last month. they lost these fights just about everywhere else. democrats in right to work states have moved on. democrats in the state legislature have threatened further action. >> good ideas get debate and bad ones get rammed through with police protection in a legislature. i will say this. this fight is not over. >> it's unclear exactly what democrats and labor can do. critics say it could overturn the law that would require getting...
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it's an important part of funding the bill. it's an important part of the bill's long-term deficit reduction. also it does do something i think is important. which is president obama often says he wants to bring taxes on the rich back to where they were in the clinton years. clinton rates as he says. when you had these taxes in, his proposal to actually increase taxes on the rich, quite a bit above where they were in the clinton years. >> the new taxes on wages and investment income, they're designed to raise, the number is, $318 billion over the next ten years or about half of all the new revenue that will be collected under the health care law. it's been pointed out the new taxes also come with a marriage penalty for those who qualify. >> i'm not hugely convinced. here's the way it works. the taxes kick in for individuals making more than $200,000 or families making more than $250,000. number one, anybody who's getting married is under those levels is seeing nothing here. that's the vast, overwhelming majority of americans. n
it's an important part of funding the bill. it's an important part of the bill's long-term deficit reduction. also it does do something i think is important. which is president obama often says he wants to bring taxes on the rich back to where they were in the clinton years. clinton rates as he says. when you had these taxes in, his proposal to actually increase taxes on the rich, quite a bit above where they were in the clinton years. >> the new taxes on wages and investment income,...
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cropped hair. >>> and then the bill banning insurance coverage for all aborgs, even in cases of rape and incest. did republicans miss the memo in this past election? weigh in on facebook and twitter. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. >>> as promised, we're keeping a very close watch on capitol hill. house speaker boehner expected to make his weekly briefing in a moment now. if the gaggle he just gave republicans is any indication that he has been in contentious in previous briefings. let's get the latest. kristen walker is live and mike live on capitol hill. mike, let's start with you. talking about the fact that we're waiting for john boehner to come out. but the behind-the-scenes attitude that he's dis
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from bill clinton, anthony, thank you so very much for your message on my 66th birthday. hearing from you made it a special day even more memorable. that's right. he sent the judge pages of those generic mass produced thank you notes politicians blast out to anyone who winds up on their mailing list. pathetic defense. >>> up next, the fiscal cliff. president obama's in campaign mode while republicans are considering, well, considering. can the president pull off a historic victory? maybe. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the u.s. postal service the holidays are easy. visit usps.com. pay, print, and have it picked up for free before december 20h for delivery in time for the holidays. you can even give us special instructions on where to find it. free package pickup. from the u.s. postal service. because it's nice to have an extra pair of hands around for the holidays. because it's nice to have an extra pair of hands around of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you d
from bill clinton, anthony, thank you so very much for your message on my 66th birthday. hearing from you made it a special day even more memorable. that's right. he sent the judge pages of those generic mass produced thank you notes politicians blast out to anyone who winds up on their mailing list. pathetic defense. >>> up next, the fiscal cliff. president obama's in campaign mode while republicans are considering, well, considering. can the president pull off a historic victory?...
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and an exclusive speech by bill clinton and a photo with him, which is actually priceless. lunch with obama body man reggie love which i think has set hearts aflame across the united states. >> you'red bying on that. >> i might be. >> and a character named after you and john irving's upcoming novel which i believe josh greene -- i feel like you've figured prominently john irving novels. >> will you be the villain or hero? >> probably depends on the size of your bid. >> informant. it's ongoing right now. >> yes. >> we're trying to dream up exciting item that maybe coming on set to visit with the "now" with alex wagner team should be up there. >> we're going to fix that. that will be up there by dinner time. >> look at that. bid high, america. we have to leave it there. thank you to my panel, benjamin, kerry, karen, josh and melinda. that is all. i'll see you tomorrow noon eastern, 9:00 pacific when joined by richard wolf, michael eric dyson, brian anderson and rana fa roo har. find us at facebook.com/now with alex. "andrea mitchell reports" is next. good afternoon, andrea. >
and an exclusive speech by bill clinton and a photo with him, which is actually priceless. lunch with obama body man reggie love which i think has set hearts aflame across the united states. >> you'red bying on that. >> i might be. >> and a character named after you and john irving's upcoming novel which i believe josh greene -- i feel like you've figured prominently john irving novels. >> will you be the villain or hero? >> probably depends on the size of your...
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way ahead of president obama at 53%, and the democratic party at 44%. joining me now is former congresswoman ellen. she was also the state department's top arms control official and margaret carlson, political columnist with bloomberg view coming to us from new york. welcome both of you. margaret, what is your take? you've watched, you know, these clips with barbara walters, the interview, and what -- even barbara walters couldn't get more out of her, although she always gets the best answers. she says she wants to watch hgtv, you know, that's home and garden tv, i think, ladies. i don't know. it's beyond me. tell me about this. >> for those that do watch it, yes, that's home and garden, and, by the way, i'm with her, sister. >> i sort of can't see that with these numbers. i mean, clearly, she deserves time off and a good break and a lot of fun and travel if she wants to and no travel, but what do you think she's going to do? >> well, andrea, you and i covered the bhous together, and hillary clinton is a completely different person to me from the way sh
way ahead of president obama at 53%, and the democratic party at 44%. joining me now is former congresswoman ellen. she was also the state department's top arms control official and margaret carlson, political columnist with bloomberg view coming to us from new york. welcome both of you. margaret, what is your take? you've watched, you know, these clips with barbara walters, the interview, and what -- even barbara walters couldn't get more out of her, although she always gets the best answers....
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bill's trying, to explain what this means and explain how we are right and we have been right. and our philosophy is a governing philosophy for the future, but that's been stripped away by the anti-intellectualism of the past decade and the conservative cause. do you see christoph? >> this is from "the new york times" yesterday, profiting from a child's illiter dacy. "this is painful for a liberal to admit, but conservatives have a point when they suggest that america's safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. our poverty programs do rescue many people, don't join the military escape route for poor, rural americans because it's easier to rely on food stamps and disability payments most wrenching of all are the parents who think it's best if a child stays illiterate because then they receive a disability check each month. there's no doubt that some families with seriously disabled children receive a lifeline from ssi but the bottom line is that we shouldn't try to fight poverty with a program that sometimes perpetuates it. >> there are some who act
bill's trying, to explain what this means and explain how we are right and we have been right. and our philosophy is a governing philosophy for the future, but that's been stripped away by the anti-intellectualism of the past decade and the conservative cause. do you see christoph? >> this is from "the new york times" yesterday, profiting from a child's illiter dacy. "this is painful for a liberal to admit, but conservatives have a point when they suggest that america's...
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it was his bill. >> george bush. >> george bush 41's bill spread it to the rest of the world. his son, george w., approved this treaty. it was sent up by president obama in '09, the senate foreign relations committee passed it easily, and then these republicans abandoned it on the floor. people are crying on the senate floor. >> john mccain gave such a passionate speech. so you have, mike barnicle, american hero, war veteran, john mccain, talking about how we help the disabled across the world with weeping american heroes who were wounded in war, watching. you have the standard set by one republican president. the treaty drawn up by another republican president, george w. bush. and voted down with bob dole yet another american hero, war hero, watching. i'm actually dumbfounded. i'm dumbfounded. sploo joe, pick the adjective, sad, pathetic, outrageous, incomprehensible. these people in washington in both the house and the, they do not know each other anymore. they have no friendships across the aisle anymore. they don't know one another's families anymore. you have this spectac
it was his bill. >> george bush. >> george bush 41's bill spread it to the rest of the world. his son, george w., approved this treaty. it was sent up by president obama in '09, the senate foreign relations committee passed it easily, and then these republicans abandoned it on the floor. people are crying on the senate floor. >> john mccain gave such a passionate speech. so you have, mike barnicle, american hero, war veteran, john mccain, talking about how we help the disabled...
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but i think you're seeing some element of pragmatism, some understanding that obama really does hold the cards having campaigned on this, having won re-election, having, you know, the sort of default being on his side, which is that all these things go away at midnight on december 31st. i think you are starting to see some movement despite the rhetoric. the question is really i think for obama, you know. i think -- he will have a deal available to him to avoid going over the fiscal cliff, i think, in exchange for raising rates a bit. the question is, is it a good enough deal or does he just say it's not a good enough deal, i can get a better deal by going over the cliff and i prefer to do that? because you guys haven't moved toward me enough. >> david, the sentiment noam expressed is the same we heard from tim geithner a few days ago. we've had a number of congressmen on this show who have said the same thing. it does seem at least that the sentiment may be shifting from, you know, two or three weeks ago absolutely, no way, not going to go over the cliff, and now you have a lot of fo
but i think you're seeing some element of pragmatism, some understanding that obama really does hold the cards having campaigned on this, having won re-election, having, you know, the sort of default being on his side, which is that all these things go away at midnight on december 31st. i think you are starting to see some movement despite the rhetoric. the question is really i think for obama, you know. i think -- he will have a deal available to him to avoid going over the fiscal cliff, i...